Monday, September 27, 2010

Villiage Voice Article On ICP Fans Against Juggalos

A little while after GOTJ '10, Camille Dodero of the Village Voice contacted me and wanted to ask me a few questions about this site and what it means. What I sent her was a long response answering all of her questions. When I saw that this site was only featured by name on the final article covering GOTJ '10, it didn't surprise me. However, I was very surprised to see this earlier this afternoon:

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2010/09/icp_fans_against_juggalos.php

It's an article, by her, entitled The Human Behind ICP Fans Against Juggalos Speaks. And, I assume, I am listed under "Juggalo Of The Day". It features all of the answers I have given (something I was actually planning on posting up here). It also features one of this site's latest videos: The South, The Rich, and The Insane Clown Posse.

In an author's note, when she asked the Insane Clown Posse if they had ever heard of this site, they said no. Not a real shocker there. However, Shaggy 2 Dope said, "It's probably some moron just trying to have people talk about him."

That comment is a little bit of a low blow. While I did allude that ICP's image is now that of tree huggers, I overall acknowledged their success and commended them for their persistence and dedication to their work. Let's face it: they're geniuses. Not to mention that I called ICP real role models. Not through their music, but how it was made, and how they built themselves up an empire out of nothing.

Again, geniuses.

I will admit that as time goes on, I'm meeting more and more juggalos (in real life and online) who are dedicated to the idea of a "juggalo family". And I don't mean cult-mentality, you're-with-us-or-you're-against-us dedicated. Now, if a majority of juggalos truly consists of these types of individuals, then look at this site as speaking out against the fakes. The ignorant ones who claim "family", but don't even know what that means. And in turn end up giving "juggalos" a bad name. Just like in the song Hound Dogs, or Bury Me Alive. They're not a dying breed. Just because they know the track list to RiddleBox doesn't make them legit. It makes them informed.

Not to mention, you constantly got some juggalos always willing to tell their sob stories about how hard it was growing up. So much so, that it suspiciously seems a little false. If you had a bad childhood, that really sucks. Get on some meds, get over it and move on with your life. And realize it isn't an excuse to do some stupid shit. No one has it easy growing up, unless your last name is Jonas.

One of the reasons why I keep up anonymity is because I don't want this whole site to seem personal. I want to bring some things to light that juggalos don't see. To get them to look at this whole thing realistically, and if it has to do with "life", then to treat it like one. Someone once asked, "If it's about that, then why call it ICP Fans Against Juggalos?"

Well, what do you suggest I call it?

Ninjas Against Juggalos?

Juggalos Against Juggalos?

Ninjalos Against Juggalos?

Juggalos Against The Juggalo Image?

Juggalos Against The Class Of Juggalos That Give Real Juggalos A Bad Name By Acting Incredibly Ignorant And That Don't Know How To Act, Practice What They Preach, Or Know A Thing About Family?

People see the name and think that it's so cut and dry right away, without trying to get to know what it's about. Isn't that what most juggalos are against: don't judge us until you know us? You don't have to agree with everything, but if you have an open mind, at least it'll get you to think a little bit about everything having to do with juggalos in general.

Shaggy judged this site right away; if the whole world were like that, ICP most likely wouldn't have any fans.

Shaggy, this site isn't about me. I'm trying to bring the spotlight back on what you guys used to be about. I'm putting all the attention on you. I could give a fuck if people are talking about me or not. This site is not so much a "fuck you" to all juggalos as it is a "fuck you" to "juggalos" who are faker than a set of tits in Hollywood, but are acknowledged as real without question (especially scene jumpers), giving your true type a bad name. And not to the public, but to eachother. No one else is giving the "fuck you" to those people (who do deserve it) unless it's a hater; and even then, the "fuck you" is to everyone else. You can think I'm a hater, but that won't change the fact that you and J will always have my undying respect and gratitude.

MCL

And if you're asking what kind of awards I won in film, the answer is none. I added that as a sarcastic joke regarding anonymity at the end of the response (while alluding to my YouTube account). Unless they give out film awards to people who dabble in A/V NLE suites while trying to convey a message at the same time, I doubt I'll be winning any.

Sunday, September 26, 2010

Search Story: Juggalo Research


Or watch it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UZIotogdjk


I created one of those "Search Stories" on YouTube for this site. Mostly because one needed to be made about juggalos that was not totally insulting, but not dick riding either. Also because the music under "Horror" is actually pretty nice. Check it out.

Thursday, September 23, 2010

Video: The South, The Rich and The Insane Clown Posse

We recently uploaded a new video onto YouTube. Instead of writing a huge article this time, I thought it would be a better fit to make a video.


Or watch it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UZIotogdjk


I will let the video speak for itself. It's a must-watch for anyone claiming to be a juggalo.

Sunday, September 19, 2010

...So Much For "Family"

This is tragic. I found this within the posts of Juggalo News.

the shit i described above i actually used for myself during the toxic terror tour (which was sold out) i bought a "ticket" off a scalper and got taken. when the "juggalos" at the back of the line could give a fuck less. i chased him alone through the back streets of downtown columbus (ohio) where he met up with 2 of his budys and one of them pulled a gun on me. in which case i let off and let them take my shit. i later reported it to a cop (on horse back) and the cop escorted me in to the show

If you see someone getting robbed, or even see someone get conned, why would you just sit back and watch? Whether or not they were a juggalo? That's just plain rude.

Not to mention that the ones ignoring were "juggalos".

Like the title says, so much for "juggalo family".

But, if you are a juggalo who really does believe that "family" exists inside of this whole scene, then you should really devise a way to test loyalty to eachother. Or learn how to keep your guard up to juggalos you don't know. Not hardcore resistance, but just enough to keep you and yours safe and at check. Some juggalos don't know how vulnerable they become by letting their guard down to anyone claiming "juggalo". You say you can spot a fake until this kind of shit happens to you, and you end up with your pants down.

Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Halls of Illusions - Uncensored Fix/Natural Voices Videos

This right here is not about juggalos, but it's something that's pissed me off nonetheless. And I'm surprised I didn't write anything about it here sooner, because this is from about three months ago.

My personal favorite music video from the Insane Clown Posse is Halls of Illusions. And for years, I've believed they have needed another one (despite the fact that we'll never see another like it again). On Youtube, they have a clear version of the video. Only, it's clean. The uncensored versions seem to be all the same video: poor condition, off-sync and cut abruptly in the end. Given my A/V editing experience, I decided to upload a corrected version onto Youtube: the uncensored version cut (and properly synced) to the censored version of the video. And it fit perfectly.

For added flavor, I decided to upload another version of the video. It's the same video, but the music's pitched is fine-tuned to make Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope sound like Joseph Bruce and Joey Utsler (if you don't know or you can't tell, most of ICP's vocals from 1995-1999 were pitched-up). It turned out pretty nice, and someone commented that it felt like watching a completely different video. Check out the sample:



I know you're asking, "This sounds cool and all, but where are these videos? So I can, you know, watch them!"

The answer is simple: I uploaded them, they were flagged and deleted.

I don't know why. I could speculate that someone assumed the worst because of my username, or was just straight up being a hater. I didn't upload them to hate on juggalos, or send some kind of message. I did it because I think a high-quality uncensored version of the video should be on display on Youtube.

People have whole albums posted on Youtube, and I can't get two videos.

Tuesday, September 14, 2010

Law & Order

Earlier in March, NBC aired an episode of Law & Order inspired by the case of Richard Samuel "Syko Sam" McCroskey. In it, generic horrorcore fans were called “juggalos”, with juggalos being cited as "losers who sit in front of their computers". KidCrusher and Vern Schillinger made guest appearances.


It is needless to say that the juggalo response was incredibly negative, with juggalos arguing that they're all about family, that ICP has a kind message, and blah blah blah. It's an event that's aftermath portrayed juggalo hypocrisy perfectly.

Go up to any self-proclaimed “juggalo” and ask what being a juggalo means to them. Most times, they’ll say that it means being someone who loves their family and doesn’t give a fuck. They don’t give a fuck, yet they are quick to verbally backlash at haters that bash ICP. This Law & Order episode, while based on true events, was still fiction. And whether or not it painted a negative picture, juggalos should be happy that their group is getting more attention; any publicity is good publicity (ICP was probably throwing three different parties at the same time after the airing of this episode to celebrate the forecasted rise in sales). And if they felt that it did, in fact, paint a negative picture, then they should practice what they preach and not give a fuck. Bitching about shit on the internet is not “not giving a fuck”.

If you don’t know anything about Syko Sam, he is was an aspiring horrorcore rapper currently in jail for murdering his underage girlfriend (he was around 21 while she was 16), her parents and her friend. They met like all couples of that age (on the internet), and after he flew in to spend a weekend at her house, well, you can guess the ending. I think it’s fair to say that despite the fact that he has the psyche profile of the typical teenage outcast (meek, doesn’t fight back, ticking time bomb waiting to explode, and et cetera), he deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison.

It’s funny that these fans were referred to as juggalos when Syko Sam was affiliated with SKR (Serial Killin Records), who represents acts like SickTanick and Razakel (who both couldn’t have been more vocal to the press about this whole ordeal), and not Psychopathic or even Hatchet House (in fact, any act outside of Psychopathic who uses the term “juggalo” to describe their fans are badmouthed by Psychopathic, see “Marz”. For good reason, too; it’s their property, after all).


Back to the topic at hand. I searched for comments about this episode of Law & Order and while reading some of them, I couldn’t help but laugh (especially comments that state “FREE SAM!”). A member of New York Magazine’s website named “Sypher” stated:

This is exactly the type of mainstream media bullshit that gives the juggalos a bad name. Yeah Syco sam killed sum people and there have been a small hand full of wanna be juggalos and horrorcore fans who have killed people and blamed it on the music. But thats nothing compare to the countless people who have killed and blamed it on gangster rap and heavy metal. Our lyrics might be the most violent but its all about the love. Juggalos still have the lowest bodycount of any music, but the media wont take that into consideration, will they!?! MWCL

What’s with all of these “it’s all about love” comments? More juggalo hypocrisy. They talk about love, and they do the complete opposite to themselves, eachother and the public. I’m not just talking about Syko Sam. In fact, I doubt Syko Sam was that much of a juggalo to begin with. I’d say he’s about as much of a juggalo as he was a “Satanist”: he flaunts around with the grand gestures and symbols, without really knowing what it even means.

A member of Juggalo News’ website “the nateball” said:

they are trying to demonize us because we are a somewhat organized group of lower class citizens. that could be dangerous to the well organized elite of this country. especially when we gather in masses of 10,000 and have good harmless fun.

I think you can tell that this was posted before this year’s GOTJ. To think that juggalos are an “organized” group is to say that the Latin Kings are a terrorist organization. You’re close, but you’re still miles away. They were only talking about “juggalos” for maybe fifteen minutes. Any conspiracies made after this basis are crack-pot.

And to be honest, you're doing a good job of personally demonizing yourselves.

There was one comment that made my day. Sadly, I lost the link, but I remembered what it said. The guy claimed that ICP was a “Christian group” with a fully positive and uplifting message, and that they didn’t want to seem lame, so that’s the only reason why they talk about murder, assault, necrophilia and et cetera. Obviously, this person hasn’t heard of a collection of CD’s called the “Joker’s Cards”. A majority of the CD’s in this collection have no allusions to God whatsoever! For argument’s sake, I could see ICP (the characters of Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope. Not to be confused with their performers: Joseph Bruce and Joey Utsler) representing the pure form of necessary evil sent to this planet to keep balance and punish those who live life as if untouchable. But as Bible-toting Christians looking to spread a message of peace and love? Don’t insult my intelligence, and don’t insult yours.

This episode of Law & Order painted a picture of mentally unstable, violent, and sociopathic people (just like the rest of its episodes). If you were offended by this episode, then it must partially describe you. Otherwise, maybe you should sit back and not be so thin-skinned. After all, its entertainment and if you don’t find it entertaining, then change the fucking channel.

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