Public Letter From Violent J

Over a year ago (judging by the "" reference, most likely longer), Violent J posted a letter addressed to anyone who considers themselves a juggalo. He asked that any juggalos with a website to repost it. I'm reposting it for my own reasons. This letter is just another example of juggalos not understanding what is going on, and taking everything for face value.

Words from Violent J himself, this shit is soo true we need to love this family more. ....
Sorry to be all deep and serious but i got lots of shit on my mind. I'm tired of everything and everybody. The only thing i give a shit about in this hell we call a world is my Juggalo Family. The Carnival saved my life and my soul. My Juggalo Pride is the best thing that ever happened to me. It's starting to scare me for the fact when I sit back and actually observe the juggalo world, It seems like its going down hill. It seems to me that a lot of ninjas are out for self and trying to prove whos a bigger juggalo that who. There is no big or small juggalo. We are all the same. It doesn't take $4,000 is psychopathic merchandise to be a juggalo. Just because I got an old school mostastless jersey doesn't make me any better than a ninja with only one t-shirt. Being a juggalo is whats in your heart not whats on you clothes. I've seen juggalos callin each other juggahoes over spots in line at shows. That's BULLSHIT! Does anyone else realize this? Does anyone else feel the pain I do when my heart bleeds as I watch my family fall apart? We are all equal. Juggalos shoud not fight with one another! Remember? We are suppose to love each other! We need to be reunited as one once again. Just as we were before. "From the first jokers card, Carnival of Carnage, to the latest card. The Wraith: Shangri-La, we have been united as one by the powers of the Dark Carnival, the power that brings us together and makes us who we are, never again must you care what people think of you or what you do, this is our world and we live for each other!" If you own a copy of Dark Lotus, as soon as you get a chance, I want you to sit down and listen to ..15 enititled, "Juggalo Family." When the song is over, think about what it means and think about how it makes you feel. If yall want to laugh than go ahead but personally, When i sang the song i really didnt listen to the words but when I heard that song for the first time, I was at The Gathering of The Juggalos 2001 and when I listened to the words and took a look around at all the juggalos face, tears slowly came from my eyes and I thought to myself, "this is my family." It felt so good to know that the only thing I care about is right here with me. My juggalo family is the only thing true in my life. Nothing else has ever made me feel good. No person place or thing has ever looked at me as a part of their family. If you own a computer, get on a website such as and click on the icon "juggalos" search through the page and take a look at all of them and just think, each of them consider you family, each of these people can be trusted with your life just as they trust you with their life. We shouldn't be fighting, we should be giving each other hugs and saying, " I clown love you ninja!"to any of you that have web sites, i would greatly appreciate it if you could post this on your site. If you happen to have access to a copy machine, please make copies and give this to as many juggalos as possible. I want to make sure every juggalo world wide reads this letter I'm goin to do my damnest to save our juggalo world and reunite it, not only that but make our family bigger. We have over two million dedicated juggalos in the world but we must also be dedicated to each other. My heart, mind, body and soul goes out to each and every one of you. If you dont remember anything from this, at least remember this, "mass murder makes me happy, dead bodies make me happy, say what you will of me, I'll always have juggalo family" please repost this and help our sick family find there way back.

After the Tila Tequila incident, there have been a lot of juggalos posting this on their blogs, sites and Facebook or Myspace profiles believing it to be damage control from Psychopathic. But it's not, it's quite old. If it was damage control, it would be a long letter about how they are completely embarrassed by the actions and judging whether or not those involved are "Real Juggalos".

While reading this letter, if you were thinking, "Violent J is so right," then there are a few things you have to keep in mind. Joseph Bruce has been seeing this through the eyes of Joseph Bruce. Not yours, not mine, and not anyone who claims to be a hardcore juggalo. He admits that when he wrote the song "Juggalo Family", it wasn't to act as an anthem. He most likely did it to kick off the "Juggalo Family" campaign (a campaign that's been cashing in since 2001). With the great success that the Insane Clown Posse has seen, and the fact that thousands were willing to go to a convention with him and his friends as the main event, it's entirely possible that it all went to his head and felt love for anyone with ICP on their minds and on their shirts. For a band that is used to an underground fan base, seeing a stadium full of people can run you with all kinds of emotion. But that means nothing for you, the consumer. Because at the end of the day, whether Violent J loves you or not, you're a consumer and it's strictly business.

Of course Violent J is going to tell you that he loves you. You paid for his house, his car, his clothes, his flat-screen, and you're going to be providing for his son until Joe Bruce kicks his ass out of the house. If anything, he owes you. What's the next best thing? His naming you a member of his family. There is no doubt he loves you, but only if you bring the paper. And there's no doubt in his mind that you won't.

When he wants to take your money, a great salesman isn't going to tell you to hawk all of the merchandise he has. Especially if you have a lot of it already. No, he's going to say you don't need it. After all, he doesn't need to pitch it to you, your friends do a good job of it anyway.

And of course Violent J is going to tell you that you're no better than he is. You don't get far in independent music if you lord over your fans like a spoiled rich girl. But the truth is that he is, and if you can't see it, then you're an idiot. Look at him: he's wealthy, he's successful, he has a beautiful girlfriend who he has two adorable little kids with, he can support all three of them without worry, he has legions of fans, his job is something that he loves doing, he gets to travel all around the world with his best friends, and he's on TV and the radio (sometimes). His life is worlds better than both of ours combined. Joe Bruce's salesman/cult-leader modesty shouldn't be taken to an extreme to where people start thinking, "He's just like me!". While he'll take the time out of his day to shake hands with juggalos and sign their shirts, posters and tits, at the end of the day, you're not equals. And he doesn't see you as one, either.

Joe Bruce and Joey Utsler are the Real, Original Juggalos. They made the name, and it's a title only they can officially claim to. Even if they lend it to you to make you happy and buy more of their products, it won't change anything. They're the Juggalos, and you're just followers.

Grab their success, and maybe it'll change.


  1. yo ninja . hit up up sometime. its be good to meet more family. mmfwcl whoooop whoooop

  2. dude i know that they are rich and i know they dont know who i am but i dont see them as better then me. i am a JUGGALO not a fan because of my friends. i dont know the best way to say it but ive been with my girl for 6 years because of the music. the first gathering i went to when they plaid juggalo family the love from every one around me made me fall to my knees and cry right there in the crowd. i dont care if icp or anyone under psychopatic loves me but i know my juggalo family does and thats what its about to me is my homies not icp, yes i love the music but its just music. if yall wanna separate your self from us thats fine because you dont feel what we feel and we dont want or need you with us.

    o and one last thing as far as the tila shit goes shes not the only one who has shit thrown at them i was there it was not bad but you dont come into someones hose and disrespect them and think its ok fuck in 08 andrew wk played main stage and he got it 4x more then she did

    whoop whoop to the juggalos and fuck "fans"

  3. Big,
    You say it's not about the music, yet you claim to be with your girl because of the music. By the way, if that's the only reason, you and your girl must be very shallow and dull people.

    Your whole comment is very hard to buy, or even take seriously. I've been to tons of ICP concerts, and if you ever broke down to your knees, you'd get straight knee'd in the grill.

    If you're a "juggalo" because of your friends, that makes you a sheep. A bandwagon rider.

    "You don't feel what we feel." I'm willing to bet you don't feel what half of the Real Juggalos do. You can shout whoop whoop all you want. It won't make you legit.

  4. I agree with alot of what has been said here. ive been listening to icp since i was 13. i am 24 now and i have and always be a juggalo. I would be what i am regardless of what icp says but the fact that there is a name, especially one to call "my own" i embrace the word and world of juggalo(s). i dont care how much shit u got or how long you've "been down". i dont give a fuck, if your a p.o.s. than your a p.o.s., juggalo or not. too be quite honest i cannot stand alot of juggalos i have meet over the last some odd years. they give us "real juggalos" a bad name. and for the record i am a fan of MUSIC. If it we not for music than i'd probably be dead. ICP has done alot for me in my life but i do have a mind of my own and i would like to think that j and shaggs would appreciate that.

  5. exactly...ive met so any people that call thems selfs a juggalo or lette but then go and run there mouth about another LO or LETTE and ill be like "dude fo real if ur a true ninja then you wont run yo mouth about family just because they dont have every thing in the world". its so stupid how you meet a person and they say there don with the clown but then disagree with every thing we're about.i glad i got family thats there for my cuz idk wut i would do here if i didnt. let me here someone say "WHOOOOP WHOOOOP!"

  6. hey guys doos it matter weather ur a fan or a lo homies we cant be so devided we fam guys im a juggalo a true juggalo id die for anyone of u mo fos here and iv never met u the hatchet brings us together fan juggolos juggalets dont matter we r all in it for the same reason the juggalo power if ur a real fan or lo u feel it just like me stop dising eachother its that damn juggalo holocast that needs to go not the fans or the los

  7. fuck you pricks who call them selves fans of icp if u hate juggalos

  8. I agree with this. I love ICP, but it's obvious that they are taking advantage of idiots (like the guy above me) by giving them a sense of belonging.

    Psychopathic Records is actually very wealthy, due to very good, and smart business techniques. Violent J,Shaggy and the rest of Psy executives, are very smart men. I wouldn't say the "juggalo family" is a scam, but boy..... is brings in the cash.

  9. angelschroeder21@gmail.comJune 6, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    I'm a juggalette and an ICP fan and I'm glad to have you all as my family

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